“They proposed to have a thorough check. Strip naked; I said yes. Private parts; I said yes. Photographs; I said no. There’s always the danger that it will ‘leak’ and this has happened before. It may appear in Youtube the next day.
Even to do that, my lawyers weren’t happy at all. They say; ‘what is the case?’. You must establish a case; a case that is considered to be at least with some grounds, in order to proceed, even if it is not prima facie. But here, the case is not established.
We are clear, absolutely clear on the alibi, every single minute of the day.
Then they asked for blood sample. This is, I think, the trick. They have my DNA.”
BBC CORRESPONDENT:
“These are what some people might call; the dark arts of politics of spin. There are some who said; in the past, while you were on the other side, you were associated with these.”
ANWAR:
“I’ve never been associated. All my years including when I was acting- Prime Minister, I refused to sign any detention without trial. No ISA person was detained under me. Yes, I was part of the system. I had to operate within the limits of the system. But I’ve always been seen, as you’ve seen in the Asian Renaissance, as a person trying to reform from within.”
BBC CORRESPONDENT:
“Do you believe that the present Prime Minister; Abdullah Badawi, knows what’s going on here? Is he the man who gave the order to arrest you to make the allegations?”
ANWAR:
“I don’t believe and I don’t have any evidence to suggest that he ordered or is the crafter of this dirty design. But Abdullah seems to be mostly unaware of what’s happening. He does not seem to be totally in the picture. But we have evidence, to the contrary, that this complainer has been working with Dato’ Najib.”
BBC CORRESPONDENT:
“So where is the Deputy Prime Minister; Najib Razak?”
ANWAR:
“We have evidence to prove that he was in communication with this complainer and his wife was working with the complainer, weeks before the complaint.”
BBC CORRESPONDENT:
“You’re riding a wave of unprecedented popular support here, you and your party of the opposition. Have you ordered people to hold off while you continue to do that?”
ANWAR:
“Yes. For now, my advice to friends and supporters is to restrain yourself because I have reason to believe that the government wants a pretext to embark on huge arrest of party leaders, parliament members and even to have some semi-emergency sort of measures to be in place. So for now, I would go on to the provinces and districts to explain the issues, you know, probably on the contained premises. But there’s no certainty of how much you can contain public anger.”
BBC CORRESPONDENT:
“What has this done for Malaysia’s reputation on the international stage?”
ANWAR:
“I think they’ve managed to destroy whatever semblance of Rule of Law in this country and this is worrying. Whatever happens, even if we take over, it is going to take a lot of hard work to revive the economy and confidence of international investors and the public.”
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I got some questions if I may:
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2008&dt=0719&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Terkini&pg=bt_10.htm
+++Dato’ Syed Hamid, if the compliance of Anwar’s camp to this investigation and their unwillingness to result to public disturbance are evident as he (Anwar) repeatedly stated, which legal part of this ongoing investigation provides you space to have a say?
1- It is not the legal profession of Sivarasa etc. that is meddling with police investigations but instead, the unnecessary commentaries of politicians and over-the-limit police interrogations (as what the Bar Council suggested) that are interfering legal processes.
+++Dato’ Syed Hamid, IF the judiciary and the executive are corrupted to the roots, how would you justify using national state of emergency measures to restrain angry Malaysians? Do you mean to say that all the actions taken against peaceful demonstrators until now, would eventually restore trust in the people, because obviously this is escalating towards unaccountable authoritarian state?
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/19/nation/20080719151737&sec=nationhttp://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/19/nation/20080719151737&sec=nation
+++Dr. Zaininah Mohd Zain, why do you have to deny the fact that Anwar was stripped naked? If it is necessary for the investigation to do so, no one is going to get mad.
1- It takes SOME guts to lie not just to Malaysians but also to international correspondents, about you being stripped naked in the presence of doctors and medical officers (more than reliable eye witnesses). I believe that lying about being stripped naked would not benefit Anwar much but instead would endanger his political career. In the end, there could be only one liar. Remember that.
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2008&dt=0719&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Terkini&pg=bt_14.htm
+++Dato’ Seri Abdullah, would you welcome international NGOs for freedom watch to Malaysia to monitor the legal processes which are going on and support them (if the government really has nothing to fear), because reiterating the non-involvement of the AG and the IGP will really not do?
http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/Saturday/BeritaUtama/20080719003120/Article
+++Dato’ Seri Abdullah, would you kindly explain about the supposed fabrication of evidence back in '98 the next time you demand a DNA sample from Anwar?
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“veritas et aequitas”
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